Machida's Resume vs. Shogun's Resume

[Elmocraven]

Machida's opponents win more often than Shogun's. Machida's opponents have beaten more of Shogun's opponents. Machida's best opponents are higher ranked.



Lyoto Machida

Machida's Resume (11 best wins): Dan Henderson, Shogun, Rashad Evans, Rich Franklin, Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Ryan Bader, BJ Penn, Thiago Silva, Sokoudjou, Nakamura.

Rankings:
Dan Henderson - #2, Shogun - #5, Rashad Evans - #1, Rich Franklin - #11-13, Randy Couture - #8, Tito Ortiz - #10-12, Ryan Bader - #6, BJ Penn - ?, Thiago Silva - #12, Sokoudjou - #4, Nakamura - #14

Best - #1, #2, #4, #5, #6

Combined wins/losses of opponents (at the time they fought):
159 wins/36 = .811 winning percentage

Opponents' combined wins over eachother's opponents:
Sokoudjou beat Nog, Nakamura, and Arona. Ryan Bader beat Nog and Rampage. Rashad beat Liddell.




Shogun Rua

Shogun's Resume (11 best wins ): Machida, Rampage,Overeem x2, Arona,Nogueria, Liddell,Forrest,Coleman,Diaba*te,Nakamu ra,Randleman.

Rankings:
Rampage - #4, Overeem - #5/#11, Arona - #4, Nog - #7, Liddell - #7, Machida - #1, Randleman - #26, Forrest - ?, Diabate - ?, Nakamura - ?

Best - #1, #4, #4, #5, #7

Combined wins/losses of opponents (at the time they fought):
176 wins/57 = .755 winning percentage

Opponents' combined wins over eachother's opponents:
Forrest beat Franklin. Liddel beat Couture. Rampage beat Henderson. Nog beat Rashad.

[Workaholic]

And.....?

[Madmick]

Awesome post. It'll be interesting to see how the Shogun choo-choo deals with facts.

Originally Posted by Workaholic

And.....?

What "and"? It sort of punches a hole in the little argument that Shogun is the greatest LHW of all-time. Bones already owns that.

[Elmocraven]

Originally Posted by Workaholic

And.....?

People seem to think Shogun's resume is unquestionably better. The facts present a different story.

[trane]

Shogun by a mile, not even close IMO

Also post a credible ranking that had Couture even near top 10, and Forrest was top 10 #6

[BrazilCanada]

Originally Posted by Madmick

Awesome post. It'll be interesting to see how the Shogun choo-choo deals with facts.

What "and"? It sort of punches a hole in the little argument that Shogun is the greatest LHW of all-time. Bones already owns that.

Fun fact: Shogun has two wins over Machida.

[MiroHa]

Shogun by far. Better question would be which was more impressive; Shogun's Pride run or Machida's UFC run from debut to winning the title. I think Shogun takes that as well.

[Augustus Caesar]

Shogun has the more impressive resume.

[Mooner]

Shogun's resume of being the PRIDE grand prix champ and UFC light heavyweight champ makes him a top 3 205lb of all time. Machida would be lucky to be in top 10

[edirpfc]

machidas resume is no comparison. when you compare the only thing that holds machidas to that level is his "win" vs rua.