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Old 03-05-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
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Machida's Resume vs. Shogun's Resume

Machida's opponents win more often than Shogun's. Machida's opponents have beaten more of Shogun's opponents. Machida's best opponents are higher ranked.



Lyoto Machida

Machida's Resume (11 best wins):
Dan Henderson, Shogun, Rashad Evans, Rich Franklin, Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Ryan Bader, BJ Penn, Thiago Silva, Sokoudjou, Nakamura.

Rankings:
Dan Henderson - #2, Shogun - #5, Rashad Evans - #1, Rich Franklin - #11-13, Randy Couture - #8, Tito Ortiz - #10-12, Ryan Bader - #6, BJ Penn - ?, Thiago Silva - #12, Sokoudjou - #4, Nakamura - #14

Best - #1, #2, #4, #5, #6

Combined wins/losses of opponents (at the time they fought):
159 wins/36 = .811 winning percentage

Opponents' combined wins over eachother's opponents:
Sokoudjou beat Nog, Nakamura, and Arona. Ryan Bader beat Nog and Rampage. Rashad beat Liddell.




Shogun Rua

Shogun's Resume (11 best wins ): Machida, Rampage,Overeem x2, Arona,Nogueria, Liddell,Forrest,Coleman,Diaba*te,Nakamu ra,Randleman.

Rankings:
Rampage - #4, Overeem - #5/#11, Arona - #4, Nog - #7, Liddell - #7, Machida - #1, Randleman - #26, Forrest - ?, Diabate - ?, Nakamura - ?

Best - #1, #4, #4, #5, #7

Combined wins/losses of opponents (at the time they fought):
176 wins/57 = .755 winning percentage

Opponents' combined wins over eachother's opponents:
Forrest beat Franklin. Liddel beat Couture. Rampage beat Henderson. Nog beat Rashad.


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And.....?

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Awesome post. It'll be interesting to see how the Shogun choo-choo deals with facts.
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What "and"? It sort of punches a hole in the little argument that Shogun is the greatest LHW of all-time. Bones already owns that.

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And.....?
People seem to think Shogun's resume is unquestionably better. The facts present a different story.

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Old 03-05-2013, 02:47 PM   #5
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Shogun by a mile, not even close IMO

Also post a credible ranking that had Couture even near top 10, and Forrest was top 10 #6

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Awesome post. It'll be interesting to see how the Shogun choo-choo deals with facts.

What "and"? It sort of punches a hole in the little argument that Shogun is the greatest LHW of all-time. Bones already owns that.
Fun fact: Shogun has two wins over Machida.

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Old 03-05-2013, 02:47 PM   #7
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Shogun by far. Better question would be which was more impressive; Shogun's Pride run or Machida's UFC run from debut to winning the title. I think Shogun takes that as well.

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Shogun has the more impressive resume.

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Shogun's resume of being the PRIDE grand prix champ and UFC light heavyweight champ makes him a top 3 205lb of all time. Machida would be lucky to be in top 10

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machidas resume is no comparison. when you compare the only thing that holds machidas to that level is his "win" vs rua.

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