Yay, another boxing vs. MMA thread. This topic has been hot today so I thought I'd post some stats with sauces I have lying around.
This is only for significant, large events held in the U.S.in 2012.
i) ESPN2 FNF averaged 409k over 26 telecasts. AFAIK most if not all were in the U.S.
ii) HBO: With this sauce, http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...6022--box.html
we know how many the following did ratings-wise.
1 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Marco Antonio Rubio, Feb. 4, HBO, 1.9 million
2 Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson, April 28, HBO, 1.6 million
3 Chavez Jr.-Andy Lee, June 16, HBO, 1.4 million
4 Adrien Broner-Vicente Escobedo, July 21, HBO, 1.4 million
5 Nonito Donaire-Jorge Arce, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
6 Andre Ward-Chad Dawson, Sept. 8, HBO, 1.3 million
7 Floyd Mayweather-Cotto PPV replay, May 12, HBO, 1.3 million
8 Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez PPV replay, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
9 Danny Garcia-Amir Khan, July 14, HBO, 1.3 million
10 Erik Morales-Garcia I, March 24, HBO, 1.2 million
11 Robert Guerrero-Andre Berto, Nov. 24, HBO, 1.1 million
12 Marcos Maidana-Devon Alexander, Feb. 25, HBO, 1.1 million
13 Broner-Antonio Demarco, Nov. 17, HBO, 1.1 million
14 Sergio Martinez-Matthew Macklin, March 17, HBO, 1.1 million
Average 1.4 mil.
Also, Nonito Donaire vs. Jeffrey Mathebula did about .8 mil:
But I donít know the ratings for these HBO events (or if they were PPV).
Grzegorz Proksa vs. Gennady Golovkin ?????????????????????????????????
Edwin Rodriguez vs. Jason Escalera???????????????????????????????? ?
Luis Carlos Abregu vs. Thomas Dulorme ?????????????????????????????
Vanes Martirosyan vs. Erislandy Lara ????????????????????????????
I canít find a list of events for Showtime boxing, but we know most of the events were in America and based on this sauce ratings increased about 15% relative to 2011.
If we then average the ratings for the two reported events from 2011 based on this sauce
We can say average ratings were probably about (709+610)*0.5*1.15=758k.
iii) Network TV:
Boxing on NBC and CBS.
Adamek vs. Cunningham on NBC 3.2
Cruz vs Guevara on CBS 1.5
Wikipedia gives the Pac and May PPVís:
Pac vs. Bradley=700k
Pac vs. JMM IV=1 mil
May vs. Cotto=1.5 mil
Chavez Jr. vs. Martinez=475k
Total: 3.675 mil buys
i) UFC on FX:
UFC on FX: Guillard vs. Miller 1.3 mil http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/201...lard-vs-miller
UFC on FX: Johnson vs. McCall 1.1
UFC on FX: Maynard vs. Guida 1.3
UFC on FX: Browne vs. Bigfoot 1.1 http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2012/1...-below-average
average: 1.2 mil
ufc 143 prelims 1.4
ufc 145 prelims 1.6
ufc 146 prelims 1.3
ufc 148 prelims 1.8
ufc 150 prelims 0.97
ufc 155 prelims 1.4
ii) UFC on Fox:
UFC on Fox: Evans Davis 4.7
UFC on Fox: Diaz vs. Miller 2.25
UFC on Fox: Shogun vs. Vera 2.2
UFC on Fox 5: Henderson vs. Diaz 4.4
iii) Tuf Finales:
TUF 15 finale 1
TUF 16 finale 1.3
iv) PPV buys: Sauce is Wikipedia
ufc 143 buys 400k
ufc 145 buys 700
ufc 146 buys 560
ufc 148 buys 925
ufc 150 buys 190
ufc 155 buys 555
Total: 3.33 mil
Boxing put on 14 cable events that got roughly a million or more views, a bunch of FNF events that averaged over 400k viewers, an unspecified number of Showtime events that averaged about 760k viewer, two network events that averaged over 2 mil viewers, and at least 3.67 mil PPV buys.
UFC put on 12 events with at least almost a million viewers, got 3.33 million PPV buys, and did 4 network events that averaged over 3.4 million viewers.
LOL at people who think Fuel TV events that peak at 300k are gonna make a difference.
i)Boxing as a whole edged out the UFC by most measures for events in U.S. But it's notable that the UFC had the single most-watched combat sports event with Evans vs. Davis.
ii) They are pretty close. Neither fanbase should get cocky.
iii) It hurts the UFC that GSP's fights are in Canada. I don't know of any big boxing events that took place in Canada, so my guess is that it's fair to say that in North American as a whole, UFC is bigger.
iv) With the Klits, boxing is almost certainly still bigger worldwide.
I'm sure Sherdog will let me know if I've made any errors. I'll correct the post if you point them out.
Additional Numbers and Amended Conclusion
My original idea was to only look at events that were physically located in the US, but a bunch of people seem to think I should include the US TV ratings for non-US shows. Here they are (minus the Fuel shows, which I scoff at).
UFC 142 prelims: .88
UFC 144 prelims: 1.5
UFC 147 prelims: .97
UFC 147 prelims: .97
UFC 149 prelims: 1 mil
UFC 152 prelims: .955
UFC 153 prelims: 1 mil
UFC 154 prelims: .98
UFC on FX: Alves vs. Kampmann: 1.4
UFC on FX: Sot vs. Perason: .972
Adding these would probably give the UFC the edge in term of TV ratings in the U.S., although boxing still edged out the UFC in PPV buys.
And yes, I know those are international UFC PPV buys numbers versus only domestic boxing PPV buys. Nothing is perfect.
1st edit: taking away Hopkins/Dawson PPV.
2nd edit: ratings for Donaire and Mathewhateva.
3rd edit: added final tally.
4th edit: adding TV ratings for Non-US shows.