This is the first e-mail to Kizer from GSP and his camp
Cc : Firas; Michael Mersch; Ted
Objet : RE:
Thank you for your email.
Please see the answers below.
Nevada Athletic Commission
From: Rodolphe Beaulieu
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:39 AM
To: Keith Kizer
Cc: Firas; Michael Mersch
Hello Mr Kizer,
Couple of questions.
I would like to know the exact list of substances that will be tested by the Salt Lake City lab.? See WADA's Prohibited List - http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/Wo...st-2013-EN.pdf
What will be the detection limits for each test? All methods used for testing are consistent with current WADA technical documents.
Who will be the MRO (medical review officer)? Dr. Timothy Trainor is the Commission’s Consulting Research Physician.
Will IRMS analysis will be included for the 19-norandrosterone, la testosterone, la DHEA etc)? Such analysis can and may be done, at the discretion of the Commission
Here is the second e-mail from GSP and his camp... Kizers answers to the questions are in bold
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:08 AM
To: 'Keith Kizer'
Cc: 'Firas'; Michael Mersch; Ted
After discussing with Georges and his medical advisors, we do have a few more questions (see below).
I also want to clarify one point, VADA is NOT sponsoring the tests as Firas previously stated on the call. It was a misunderstanding. It would cost 7,500$ per fighter under VADA and VADA will absorb 5,000$ for a total cost of $20k which is in line with your estimation of the costs with the SMRTL lab.
1- Can you provide us the Nevada Athletic Commission policies and collection procedures (including results management). Please provide a copy of your policy. All the Commission’s regulations can be found athttp://leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html.
2- I know you indicated that the Nevada Athletic Commission will use the Salt Lake City lab. Can you confirm who will be the collection company that you intend to use? No
3- Does the Nevada Athletic Commission has an insurance for this anti-doping program? Please provide a copy. No, the Commission is a government agency.
4- How long has the Nevada Athletic Commission been conducting these un-announced program with a WADA accredited lab using Olympic level testing? The Commission has been working directly with the SMRT lab starting this summer. Do you/will you also test for HGH and EPO? I already informed you that the testing will be for substances on WADA’s Prohibited List- http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/Wo...st-2013-EN.pdf.
5- How many fighters have been tested with this program by the Nevada Athletic Commission? The Commission has performed OOC testing on about 50 athletes.
Rodolphe Beaulieu, CFA
Partner - LB3i Sports
Slightly over an hour later, Mersch responded to the ongoing conversation: (I believe this is a VADA rep)
From: Michael Mersch
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:18 AM
Cc: 'Firas'; Ted; Keith Kizer
I just tried to call you but did not get an answer. I thought that the options available to Georges were made clear during our last call but apparently not.
Please understand that the Nevada Athletic Commission is doing Georges a favor by offering to be involved in this process. The benefit, to Georges, of having them involved is that it brings legitimacy to any pre-fight testing procedures and any results that may come out of said pre-fight testing. I think Mr. Kizer made it clear that, if Georges want them to be involved, he had a very strict protocol that he expected to be followed and, if Georges elected not to follow said protocol, that was his choice but that the NSAC would not be involved other than to the extent they would traditionally be involved in the drug testing of athletes under Nevada State law.
Issues such as collection procedures have already been discussed. Who their medical officer is and that the Salt Lake Lab will dictate collection times in concert with the Nevada Commission has also been explained to you.
Again, the choices for Georges are very simply:
1) Elect to work with the NSAC and pay for additional drug testing pursuant to the very clear directives of Executive Director Kizer as was discussed at length on the call we had with Ted Ahrens, Mr. Kizer and Commissioner Aguilar;
2) Elect not to request NSAC pre-fight involvement
As we discussed on the call, Georges stated goal here seems to be to establish, through medical testing, that Georges is a "clean" fighter. You do not need to work with either the NSAC or VADA to establish that in my opinoin [sic]. As you may be aware, there is an accredited WADA level lab in Montreal that you can work with or you can simply have medical testing performed by any board-certified endocrinologist of your choosing to establish this.
Similarly, if Georges elects to work with VADA, that is his choice but, as described by Mr. Kizer, VADA has no role or impact on the process of licensing and testing fighters within the State of Nevada (nor in any other jurisdiction for that matter). Additionally, Mr. Hendricks has made it clear that while he is happy to submit to any testing involving the Nevada Commission, he is uncomfortable working with VADA for the reasons noted on our call and those noted above in this email.
So again, the decision is up to George. Please let me know what he elects to do.
When contacted for clarification on the intent of Mr. Mersch's email, a UFC representative simply added, "The email is fairly self-explanatory. We attempted to broker joint drug testing through the NSAC and St-Pierre and his camp elected to utilize VADA."
That appeared to be all Kizer needed as he moved to claim that GSP was effectively declining hours later:
Le 2013-08-16 à 14:32, Keith Kizer a écrit :
Mr. Mersch and Mr. Beauliue:
Thank you both for your email. Special thanks to Rudolphe for being professional enough to divulge Mr. Firas’s misrepresentation.
I am happy to answer any questions (and have – see my answers to yours latest questions below). However, the Commission does not allow any licensee to dictate or craft the testing. Not only is this inappropriate, it is not something the Commission would even consider.
I will take the latest email as a refusal by Mr. St. Pierre to request enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Commission, which is his choice. Of course Mr. St. Pierre and Mr. Hendricks must comply with any and all testing by the Commission.
Nevada Athletic Commission
Just over 24 hours later, Beaulieu responded, saying that St-Pierre was in for the NSAC testing and would also do additional VADA testing himself
Georges camp response basically saying there not going to do the VADA testing)
From: Rodolphe Beaulieu
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 6:52 PM
To: Keith Kizer
Cc: Michael Mersch; Firas; Ted
Subject: Re: RE:
We spoke with Georges today and he took his decision so for your information, Georges has decided that if Johny Hendricks does not want to do VADA and prefers your proposed enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Nevada Athletic Commission, Georges will also do it, in addition to VADA.
I will be out of the office without access to email or voicemail until Aug. 27th but in the meantime, please provide us with all documentation, a detailed invoice and payment instructions necessary to proceed with such enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Commission.