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Old 02-08-2009, 11:42 AM   #1
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Getting into the UFC?

So, the UFC is the highest paying MMA org in the states and as such, it should have the best of the best fighters that the US can pull in with a few exceptions. I was watching Velasquez fight last night and don't get me wrong. He completely dominated the fight. What bothers me is that he only had 2 fights on his record before getting into the UFC. It seems like fighters should be veterans before getting into the UFC or at least have some kind of fame for crowd attraction(I.E. TUF, WWE). Could someone explain to me how someone with such a small record gets put into the biggest MMA org in the states if not planet earth and gets put on the main card. Once again, I'm not bashing anyone. There are tons of great fighters with small records. It just perplexes me.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:42 AM   #2

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He shows incredible potential/ talent and ability.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:45 AM   #3

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First of all, UFC is not the highest paying MMA organization in the states... that's Affliction, I'm pretty sure... the smaller fights on that show pay as good as some of the headliners for a UFC show...

And as for how you get into the UFC with just a few fights... man I don't know... I know some brand names like Tapout actually try to scout talent and stuff but I don't really know how it works...

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:46 AM   #4

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there's a lot of guys that probably tell the ufc about guys in their camps that are less experienced but show a lot of potential

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Rogan said last night that Cain had been touted by a lot of "insiders" before coming in. Having contacts in the business is always helpful, I'd imagine the UFC is no different.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:47 AM   #6

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Getting into the UFC isn't as easy as it used to be.

In the early days a bar brawler could get into the UFC. Nowadays it's best to start with a smaller, feeder organization and get noticed.

Velasquez is incredibly talented and probably well managed.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:55 AM   #7
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It seems like there are guys who they've heard about through camps or their amateur fights, and they want to sign them before they go to Japan or elsewhere to make their name

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:57 AM   #8

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Like with anything else in the world, who you know plays a big part.

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Guys like Cain Valasquez and Jake Rosholt get snapped up by the UFC earlier than others because they are proven high level competitors who show great potential and they want to sign them to long term contracts cheaply.

In Cain's case he is a doubly good investment because he is Hispanic and will help tap the latino market.

The UFC has stated that since TUF 7 (where two guys on the show had zero pro bouts: Riddle and Amir) that no more will they let guys with less than 3 pro bouts in the UFC or on TUF.

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Old 02-08-2009, 12:06 PM   #10

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It's based on both drawing ability and potential. In the case of a guy like Brock, there is going to be a ton of interest by people in watching him fight for real so he will draw PPV buys. Cain or Carwin were highly touted prospects out of major camps with lots of potential and solid bases. But there are way stranger examples of fighters being allowed into major orgs with no experience. In many Japanese orgs including PRIDE guys with 0-0 records would fight, prove to have no business in the big show, and get call backs.

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