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View Poll Results: How does Jones do at HW?
Jones would be a title contender at HW. 194 27.56%
Jones would be a mid-level HW. 329 46.73%
Jones would get smashed at HW. 181 25.71%
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:27 PM   #1
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Did Gusta Shatter the Idea That Jones Could Easily Compete At HW?

I mean, Jones' first opponent where he finally didn't have a dominant height & reach advantage, and here he had the toughest fight of his life. Don't get me wrong, Jones is very talented and may move up someday, but before this fight a lot of people were talking like maybe he could just move up and breeze through everyone at HW, and be up there fighting for the title with Cain and JDS in no time.

Does this skin-of-his-teeth fight with Gustafsson destroy that idea? To me it does. Jones clearly belongs at LHW, I think he gets smashed by guys like Travis Browne and Bigfoot, much less the top of the division like Cain and JDS. What do you think?

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:30 PM   #2
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I mean, Jones' first opponent where he finally didn't have a dominant height & reach advantage, and here he had the toughest fight of his life. Don't get me wrong, Jones is very talented and may move up someday, but before this fight a lot of people were talking like maybe he could just move up and breeze through everyone at HW, and be up there fighting for the title with Cain and JDS in no time.

Does this skin-of-his-teeth fight with Gustafsson destroy that idea? To me it does. Jones clearly belongs at LHW, I think he gets smashed by guys like Travis Browne and Bigfoot, much less the top of the division like Cain and JDS. What do you think?
I was already doubting the idea of him being successful at HW, but what Gus did to him pretty much sealed the deal for me.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:32 PM   #3
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I fail to see how it changes anything. Jon Jones is still favored to beat everyone except the top 2-3 HWs, which is a bit harder to gauge.

Gustafsson is a great fighter and there is very few at HW that could do what he does. He himself could probably do great things at HW.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:33 PM   #4
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Not really. Jones could still likely beat a big chunk of the heavyweight division. IMO it is unknown how he would ever match up against the very elite because he would need a few fights in the division first before he'd be ready to go up against them anyways. But with the right matchmaking he could definitely go on a 3 fight streak in heavyweight and be ready to be talked about in the contention for that title. People have to understand that it would still take him a long time(years) to transition properly from 205 to 265 weight wise.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #5
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Little bit. I thought he would easily be top 5 HW, but now i have some doubts. I still think he would do well.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #6
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I always felt Jones would struggle at HW regardless, still think he would be a top 10 guy however.

That said I am not sure the Gus fight really changes my thinking, who knows it could have been an off night, maybe Gus is better than some people gave him credit for, who knows really.

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Well, Gus has speed and cardio that no HW has combined. I mean, I could see Jones beating the crap out of middle tier guys at heavyweight, but he's never going to compete with the likes of JDS or Cain.

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I mean, Jones' first opponent where he finally didn't have a dominant height & reach advantage, and here he had the toughest fight of his life. Don't get me wrong, Jones is very talented and may move up someday, but before this fight a lot of people were talking like maybe he could just move up and breeze through everyone at HW, and be up there fighting for the title with Cain and JDS in no time.

Does this skin-of-his-teeth fight with Gustafsson destroy that idea? To me it does. Jones clearly belongs at LHW, I think he gets smashed by guys like Travis Browne and Bigfoot, much less the top of the division like Cain and JDS. What do you think?
I've always said JDS, Cain, Werdum & DC all beat him at HW. Throw in Barnett as well.
Would be interesting to see but I doubt he moves up now. Gustafsson has scared him straight, which will be the destruction of his next opponent.

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He would have serious trouble standing with Mitrione, seriously. In that particular fight he'd easily win by sub but it still shows how different things would be for him at HW.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:39 PM   #10
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HW is thin on talent so you could argue that he would be a contender but he would no longer be the overwhelming favorite in these fights. I would hate to see Jones vs JDS, he may suffer brain damage from that fight. JDS power and speed would destroy him

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