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Old 11-29-2009, 06:15 PM   #1
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Weight cutting and carbs (need help cutting weight)

So my first wrestling meet is on Wednesday and I am 8 pounds over my weight class

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I've been following the weight cutting threads plan and I am at the point of cutting calories and carbs to quicken weight loss so I don't have to cut too much water weight.

I have cut carbs but need energy after practice (I practice from 3:00- 6:00) and I don't usually eat carbs at this time so I can lose fat. How many carbs should I intake without gaining too much weight?

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:30 PM   #2
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This isn't meant as a sarcastic question, but why do you think you need carbs so badly after practice? If cutting weight is the priority, I would avoid them, for the most part. There are often good reasons to eat carbs PWO, but they aren't required, especially if you're trying to cut weight.

That said, you could probably get away with consuming a small quantity of carbs without screwing up your cut much, but since I don't know why you want them in the first place, I don't know if they would be worthwhile. But I wouldn't worry too much about eating some fruit or something with a protein rich meal.

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:39 PM   #3
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This isn't meant as a sarcastic question, but why do you think you need carbs so badly after practice? If cutting weight is the priority, I would avoid them, for the most part. There are often good reasons to eat carbs PWO, but they aren't required, especially if you're trying to cut weight.

That said, you could probably get away with consuming a small quantity of carbs without screwing up your cut much, but since I don't know why you want them in the first place, I don't know if they would be worthwhile. But I wouldn't worry too much about eating some fruit or something with a protein rich meal.
I assumed that people needed carbs as an energy source, but if I don't need carbs thats great! thanks man.

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first off, i dont know any1 elses credentials here,but i have done the whole weight cutting thing for years, the right way and the wrong way- ive competed at all levels and am currently a coach...first let me say do NOT cut carbs... the next thing is, how old are you- this means a lot when it comes to weight cutting

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:59 PM   #5
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first off, i dont know any1 elses credentials here,but i have done the whole weight cutting thing for years, the right way and the wrong way- ive competed at all levels and am currently a coach...first let me say do NOT cut carbs... the next thing is, how old are you- this means a lot when it comes to weight cutting
And why not?

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And why not?
you need energy, more now than ever... for ms and hs kids especially bc they need to go through a whole day of school followed by a grueling practice, plus they are still growing- cutting carbs= not smart idea, it will actually make it harder to lose weight bc you will have less energy

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I assumed that people needed carbs as an energy source, but if I don't need carbs thats great! thanks man.
Your body can get energy just fine from protein and fat. Both in terms of cutting extraneous calories and keeping water retention down, cutting carbs is a good call. If you need to lose weight, you're going to have to cut something: Protein, carbs, fat, water, or some mixture of them...out of the four, guess which is the only one you body doesn't need? Carbs, of course.

Bear in mind, adapting to perform optimally to a very low carb diet takes time, but I assume you'll have some time to get some carbs in your system closer to the time of your matches, so this will probably be a non-issue.

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Your body can get energy just fine from protein and fat. Both in terms of cutting extraneous calories and keeping water retention down, cutting carbs is a good call.

Bear in mind, adapting to perform optimally to a very low carb diet takes time, but I assume you'll have some time to get some carbs in your system closer to the time of your matches, so this will probably be a non-issue.
you will not perform optimally on a low carb diet... no pro athlete is on a low carb diet. carbs are the number 1 source of energy in your body, there is a difference between weight cutting and weight loss... most wrestlers have a weight loss program b4 they actually "cut" weight- BUT in wrestling season cutting carbs is not the answer. you can get energy from fat and protein but you will have to eat MORE of them- which means more weight, which for the purposes of cutting weight is bad

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you will not perform optimally on a low carb diet... no pro athlete is on a low carb diet. carbs are the number 1 source of energy in your body, there is a difference between weight cutting and weight loss... most wrestlers have a weight loss program b4 they actually "cut" weight- BUT in wrestling season cutting carbs is not the answer. you can get energy from fat and protein but you will have to eat MORE of them- which means more weight, which for the purposes of cutting weight is bad
I don't even know where to start. I will just say that for strength athletes, fighters, wrestlers, football players, etc low carb is just fine. If you're coaching marathon runners or Iron Man triathletes, then give em more carbs, but wrestlers will do fine without.

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I don't even know where to start. I will just say that for strength athletes, fighters, wrestlers, football players, etc low carb is just fine. If you're coaching marathon runners or Iron Man triathletes, then give em more carbs, but wrestlers will do fine without.
sorry to tell ya, but wrestling and fighting are not strength sports... this is a cardio thing anyways... but football is start and stop, wrestling and fighting are not, you have to go hard for the whole 6 or 7minutes/ 15-25 minutes. u can have all the strength in the world, but if its gone after 2 minutes u wont do so well- ask baroni

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