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Old 09-10-2007, 09:41 PM   #1
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Update on BSN's new NCG-CR

i know alot of people were wondering what exactly this new one coming from BSN is so here ya go. a little study i found on what this stuff is supposed to be:

Nutr. 2007 Feb;137(2):315-9. Links
Oral N-carbamylglutamate supplementation increases protein synthesis in skeletal muscle of piglets.
Frank JW, Escobar J, Nguyen HV, Jobgen SC, Jobgen WS, Davis TA, Wu G.

This study investigated the potential mechanisms by which oral supplementation of N-carbamylglutamate (NCG), an analogue of endogenous N-acetylglutamate (an activator of arginine synthesis) increases growth rate in sow-reared piglets. Two piglets of equal body weight (BW) and of the same gender from each lactating sow were allotted to receive oral administration of 0 (control) or 50 mg of NCG/kg BW every 12 h for 7 d. Piglets (n=32; BW=3 kg) were studied in the food-deprived or fed state following the 7 d of treatment. Overnight food-deprived piglets were given NCG or water (control) at time 0 and 60 min. Piglets studied in the fed state were gavage-fed sow's milk with their respective NCG treatment at 0 and 60 min. At 60 min, the piglets were administered a flooding dose of [3H]phenylalanine and killed at 90 min to measure tissue protein synthesis. Piglets treated with NCG gained 28% more weight than control pigs (P<0.001) over the 7-d period. Fed pigs had greater rates of protein synthesis in longissimus dorsi and gastrocnemius muscles and duodenum compared with food-deprived pigs (P<0.001). Absolute protein synthesis rates in longissimus dorsi (P=0.050) and gastrocnemius (P=0.068) muscles were 30 and 21% greater, respectively, in NCG-treated compared with control pigs. Piglets supplemented with NCG also had greater plasma concentrations of arginine and somatotropin than control pigs (P<0.001). The results suggest that oral NCG supplementation increases plasma arginine and somatotropin levels, leading to an increase in growth rate and muscle protein synthesis in nursing piglets.

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:23 PM   #2

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So do you have any idea of when its coming out?

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:40 PM   #3
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:47 PM   #4

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Very interesting. I wish they didn't have to kill the cute little piglets, though.

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:51 PM   #5
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Interesting stuff, TX911.

Had those NCG-piglets not been killed, I'm sure they would have gone on to have successful bodybuilding careers. Fucking bastard scientists!

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Old 01-18-2008, 10:55 AM   #6
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mmm...succulent piglets...

So sow's milk is the new creatine, did I read that right?

*nods head while stroking beard*

thanks for posting, i need to brush up on my science.

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