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Old 03-28-2010, 01:23 AM   #1
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Does mixing whey protein with hot water affect it's performance?

So I bought the GNC amplified wheybolic extreme 60 stuff and on the label it says to mix cold water.

Its the chocolate flavor and I know it would taste great as a hot cocoa like drink. Does hot water inactivate any of the components? I mean our bodies are 97 degrees but hot water is alot hotter than that.

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Old 03-28-2010, 01:25 AM   #2
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So I bought the GNC amplified wheybolic extreme 60 stuff and on the label it says to mix cold water.

Its the chocolate flavor and I know it would taste great as a hot cocoa like drink. Does hot water inactivate any of the components? I mean our bodies are 97 degrees but hot water is alot hotter than that.
It might, but I wouldn't worry about it that much.

Do you worry about lowering the protein content when you cook meat?

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Old 03-28-2010, 01:32 AM   #3
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It might, but I wouldn't worry about it that much.

Do you worry about lowering the protein content when you cook meat?
Well thats what I figured but this stuff has alot of extra enzymes and stuff in it. It tastes fine with cold water but it would taste fantastic with hot water. It literally is as sweet as cocoa mix.

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Old 03-28-2010, 07:05 AM   #4
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Protein can become denatured in a really hot medium, but if anything, that's probably a good thing.

In short, doesn't matter.

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Old 03-28-2010, 01:26 PM   #5
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i don't think it is a very big deal as long as it isn't scalding hot/boiling water. medium warm water will not make a huge difference.

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I've looked into this a bit actually,

I don't like the heating meat argument, because heating meat DOES denurture it, and whey powder is MUCH more sensative then meat is..

So I probably wouldn't use boiling water to make a mug of hot cocoa out of your chocolate whey, but my take on this is that your body is going to warm it to 98.6 degrees no matter what.

Alot of protein is just powdered bovine milk any ways, and cows have a body temp of between 101-103 degrees.

So I figure that water in the 80-110 degree range is probably ideal. Will it make any reasonable difference? probably not.


But if you're using warmer water, I would consume the shake immediately after mixing. Bacteria would reproduce much quicker in a room temp. protein shake then a cold shake, so leaving a pre-mixed shake in your gym bag for 5-6 hours is something I probably wouldn't do.

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I've looked into this a bit actually,

I don't like the heating meat argument, because heating meat DOES denurture it, and whey powder is MUCH more sensative then meat is.
But I say again, denaturing is not a bad thing. It might even be a GOOD thing.

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But I say again, denaturing is not a bad thing. It might even be a GOOD thing.
Heating milk degrades it's natural beneficial amino acids, and certain lactic acids that are beneficial to digestion and imuno-health

I suppose since it's milk whey, though it has already been super heated.

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"Degrading" and "denaturing" are two different things. Which one do you mean to be talking about?

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Old 03-29-2010, 07:49 AM   #10
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I've been using whey in my coffee instead of a bit of cream and sugar. I made a thread on it a while ago. The consensus was that it did not matter, as Xtrainer is saying in here.

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