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Old 10-04-2006, 06:25 AM   #1
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Best ephedra substitute?

I used fat burning pills that contained ephedra a few years back and they worked really well. I haven't tried any of the new stuff without ephedra and I was wondering if anyone knows what works best. I've been looking at carnitine and stacker but I have no idea if they're any good, I'd appreciate some advice/recommendations. Thanks.

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Old 10-04-2006, 06:58 AM   #2
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I am using carnitine and animal cuts and am pleased with the results. I have lost 16 lbs since july 5 and have gotten stronger in that time

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Old 10-04-2006, 07:19 AM   #3
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I am using carnitine and animal cuts and am pleased with the results. I have lost 16 lbs since july 5 and have gotten stronger in that time
That sounds good, I'll definitely look into it then. What kind of fat burning workout do you do?

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Old 10-04-2006, 08:01 AM   #4
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ephedrine HCL.....pseudoephedrine HCL on top possibly? with caffeine and aspirin....

what's a good dosage for pseudo? 30? or 60?mg(the recommended dosage for adult for cold medicine, is 60).....

what about aspirin? 81mg?

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Old 10-04-2006, 09:18 AM   #5
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That sounds good, I'll definitely look into it then. What kind of fat burning workout do you do?
due to previous injuries I try not to run. I do however, put the incline of the treadmill as high aas it will go and use a speed I am comfortable with, usually 4.2 or 4.3. I will stay on that for about 30 minutes 5x per week

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due to previous injuries I try not to run. I do however, put the incline of the treadmill as high aas it will go and use a speed I am comfortable with, usually 4.2 or 4.3. I will stay on that for about 30 minutes 5x per week
Definitely sounds like the right thing for me in that case, you have lost quite a lot in a pretty short time. For cardio/fat burning, I usually run for at least 45 minutes 3-4 times a week but just can't to make a breakthrough it seems. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.

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Old 10-04-2006, 09:41 AM   #7
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good deal. additionally I do use arginine for a more defined look. Have found it to work well. Good luck

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Old 10-04-2006, 07:29 PM   #8
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You can still buy Ephedra. It's sold under "asthma treatments" on some weight loss sites. Or you could just buy one of the synthetic ephedrines.

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ephedrine HCL.....pseudoephedrine HCL on top possibly? with caffeine and aspirin....

what's a good dosage for pseudo? 30? or 60?mg(the recommended dosage for adult for cold medicine, is 60).....

what about aspirin? 81mg?
I wouldn't stack those two. Straight ephedrine HCl is more effective than pseudoephedrine, so if you increased dosage, I would just increase dosage of the former. But then, I wouldn't increase dosage of the former. 25mg of ephedrine HCl and you're good to go.

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You can still buy Ephedra. It's sold under "asthma treatments" on some weight loss sites.
People have to watch out for DEA controlled deliveries with that.

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