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Old 05-20-2011, 05:13 PM   #1
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D'arce vs. Anaconda vs. Barbo vs. "Ninja" choke

Trying to clear up the difference between all these.

So my understanding is that a D'arce choke and an Anaconda choke are the same thing EXCEPT in a D'arce the choking arm threads under your opponents first before going across the neck, and the Anaconda is the opposite, neck first then arm.

A barbo choke is just a different name for a D'arce?
And a Ninja choke is like a no arm D'arce?

Whats the difference?

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Old 05-20-2011, 05:20 PM   #2
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Trying to clear up the difference between all these.

So my understanding is that a D'arce choke and an Anaconda choke are the same thing EXCEPT in a D'arce the choking arm threads under your opponents first before going across the neck, and the Anaconda is the opposite, neck first then arm.

A barbo choke is just a different name for a D'arce?
And a Ninja choke is like a no arm D'arce?

Whats the difference?
Your understanding of the darce and anaconda are correct.

The brabo and the darce are the same. There is a gi choke called the brabo, so often people will say darce for the no-gi version, and brabo for the gi version, but for the no-gi version you can use darce or brabo. Either is fine.

I have no idea what the hell a ninja choke is. I know that technically there's no such thing as a no arm darce/brabo. That would defeat the entire purpose. That's like saying a no arm arm triangle.

If there's no arm in the choke it's probably a guillotine variation. Do you have a video/picture of the ninja choke?

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Old 05-20-2011, 05:23 PM   #3
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This what I got on youtube for Ninja choke: I can SEE why someone would describe it as a "no-arm Darce/Brabo choke" but to me it's just a guillotine variation that involves a Mata Leao/Rear Naked Choke grip. I mean call it whatever you want though. If it helps you remember it, there's no problem. A friend of mine used to call the N/S Kimura the Alabama Crab Dangle.


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Old 05-20-2011, 05:24 PM   #4
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Your understanding of the darce and anaconda are correct.

The brabo and the darce are the same. There is a gi choke called the brabo, so often people will say darce for the no-gi version, and brabo for the gi version, but for the no-gi version you can use darce or brabo. Either is fine.

I have no idea what the hell a ninja choke is. I know that technically there's no such thing as a no arm darce/brabo. That would defeat the entire purpose. That's like saying a no arm arm triangle.

If there's no arm in the choke it's probably a guillotine variation. Do you have a video/picture of the ninja choke?
Budovideos.com - Mastering the Ninja Choke DVD by Shuichiro Katsumura

Edit: I am somewhat uninformed on the no-arm darce or whatever you want to call it, I have seen some use of it in the Fading to Black DVD where it's called the "coma choke." I am a smaller guy and I'm just not sure how useful that choke would be from closed guard for me. I do think it's a little bit unorthodox and sneakier than the guillotine so I might play around with it when I work on some marce drilling tonight.


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Old 05-20-2011, 05:29 PM   #5
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That is a neat little choke from the guard.

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Old 05-20-2011, 05:29 PM   #6
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Cool! The pictures I think do a good job illustrating that it's a guillotine variation. I've never really tried locking these types of RNC grip guillotines from the front and side like this. Looks cool.





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ive wondered the same for some time but too lazy to start the thread. Thanks for the info

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To me all of them are just arm triangles from different directions ...
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To me all of them are just arm triangles from different directions ...
Save ninja

one in one out
agreed. +1

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D'arce/Brabo or Anaconda.. A Ninja choke is just the same arm positioning without an arm in. Some guys call it a power guillotine. When I learned it, it was just another version of the guillotine. I was taught to transition into it when the arm-in guillotine is getting defensed by the guy pulling back and tight with the trapped arm.

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