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Old 09-23-2005, 09:11 PM   #1
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Savate

What are peopleís thoughts on this art and how do you think it compares to Kickboxing and Muay Thai?
Do you have any information on successful Savate fighters e.g. world champions or possibly famous MMA fighters with a Savate background?

Also any information on training facilities in England or France would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-23-2005, 09:15 PM   #2
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Savate simple does not match up well with kickboxing and muay thai. The kicks have very little power behind them.

Someone posted a full savate fight a while back. Try to search "savate" and maybe you can find it.

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Old 09-23-2005, 10:20 PM   #3
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I train savate because it's super cheap where I am and I'm pretty satisfied because it's quite intense. I realize though that some of the techniques lack power. In savate, they usually train for is just points-kickboxing or assaut-savate, meaning that if you happen to touch the other guy's head/body/leg with a strike, you'll get points. So a lot of the technique is focused on getting to the target FAST. There is also combat-savate, which emphasizes power and KO, so that might be an option. An art like muay thai on the other hand emphasizes power, because they train for KO all the time.

The strikes itself incorporate a lot of different techniques, including thai roundhouse kicks, kyokushin/TKD spin kicks, western boxing, etc. So you do train a shitload of stuff. Some techniques dont have power, whereas other ones can.

Some are rules that are a little weird IMO. You kick with shoes on and you're expected to make contact with the shoe. So no shin strikes. Also, no clinch/kneeing/elbowing.

The only way I can see savate having an advantage over muay thai is shoe kicks, which fucking kill if it lands right. I can see savate having a lot more variety of strikes than muay thai, for better or worse.

I think Ernesto Hoost is a savateur.

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Old 09-24-2005, 02:40 AM   #4
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One time I watched a Savate presentation on the Las vegas strip and it was impressive to see. One of the guys kicked plates that were thrown up in the air. Another of the guys kicked throw the wire imbedded glass then they had a sparring session and went pretty hard on each other you could hear the kicks land and they were coming out fast as hell. The coolest thing they did was fight with canes it looked brutal to the hands. If i had the chance to learn Savate i would jump on it because it looks like a really cool martial art

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Old 09-24-2005, 09:18 AM   #5
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Im also curious about Savate, im hearing talk of savate coming to my little town, and since the muay thai place is a serious mc-dojo place im looking for other options to suplement my boxing.

Opinions are apreciated about how savate blend in with western boxing. (im guessing that it can be an fairly efective blend, if nothing else perhaps i learn a new trick or 2..)

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Old 09-24-2005, 11:06 AM   #6
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One time I watched a Savate presentation on the Las vegas strip and it was impressive to see. One of the guys kicked plates that were thrown up in the air. Another of the guys kicked throw the wire imbedded glass then they had a sparring session and went pretty hard on each other you could hear the kicks land and they were coming out fast as hell. The coolest thing they did was fight with canes it looked brutal to the hands. If i had the chance to learn Savate i would jump on it because it looks like a really cool martial art
Thrown plates? You've got to be kidding me? That *is* impressive.

I've tried to hit thrown things after spinning (just goofing around) and I always miss. If a guy can hit it right out of the air....damn....

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Old 09-24-2005, 11:06 AM   #7
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Im also curious about Savate, im hearing talk of savate coming to my little town, and since the muay thai place is a serious mc-dojo place im looking for other options to suplement my boxing.

Opinions are apreciated about how savate blend in with western boxing. (im guessing that it can be an fairly efective blend, if nothing else perhaps i learn a new trick or 2..)

From what I have been reading on Savate it is already a blend of western boxing and an old French kicking art called "Chausson" which was used by sailors in the early 1800's who had been to the eastern orient. In 1830 a man called Charles Lecour who was a Chausson fighter got his ass handed to him by an English pugilist or "boxer" called Owen Swift. After the defeat he took boxing classes and added the hand strikes to his kicks and created modern Savate.

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Old 09-24-2005, 12:18 PM   #8
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Thats cool to know vale tudo guy.

Can anybody give a good description of the art. How the kicking works, what type of mechanics do they use, and so on...

I have heard interesting things that savate is suposed to be much about "angles" in a special way.. Anybody know anything about this.

Sorry if my questions are a bit unfocused, it is because to be honest I really dont know that much about the art...

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Old 09-24-2005, 03:07 PM   #9
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http://www.onlineonair.com/savate/page1.html


this is the best i have been able to find on the net

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Thanks a bunch VTGuy! Just what I was looking for..

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