http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/ You call that a deadlift? HA! Come in and share your woes, girly man. en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 04:56:30 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.cdn.sherdog.net/forums/images/darkinferno/misc/rss.jpg http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/basic-question-seperating-cardio-weights-workouts-2489663/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:22:25 GMT My girlfriend, unbeknownst to me, has been doing 20 minutes of cardio, buncha weights, then 15 minutes of cardio, then some weights, then ends the workout with 15 minutes of cardio. Is it just me or is this fundamentally %$*$#ed?


What do I even tell this person? If you're gonna do weights and cardio in the same workout atleast do cardio post weights and all together, right? ]]> Catweiser http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/basic-question-seperating-cardio-weights-workouts-2489663/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/kettlebell-alternatives-2489323/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:37:35 GMT At this moment in time I am about to start kettlebell training for the first time but I don't have kettlebells (yet). I was wondering could the same concept and same workout be achieved through using the big 5 litre bottles of water? (full with water of course) Also how many bottles? I'm thinking 2 but I'm not sure.

While I wait for an answer I'll get started on my cardio =)

Any answers greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Haru ]]> HaruHaru http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/kettlebell-alternatives-2489323/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/jauntypoll-2-main-lift-do-you-currently-consider-your-best-2489309/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:59:36 GMT JauntyPoll #2: "Which main lift do you currently consider to be your best?"

So, last week I asked "which main lift has caused you the most problems?" and the answers were interesting- squat and bench were way out in front with 36% and 23% respectively, leaving just 41% of the vote between the other options (deadlift, OHP, power clean, C&J and squat). We also got some great discussion and explanation of the problems that people have had with these lifts. Plus some whining about options I didn't provide.

Anyway, this week I want to carry on in a similar vein and ask about your strongest lift. Next week I plan to do a a conditioning related poll (I am thinking roughly a 2-1 ratio between polls about Strength and polls about conditioning is about right given the interests of the forum members). But for now I want to complement the discussion of weaknesses with a discussion of strengths. So, as mentioned, the question is "which main lift do you currently consider to be your best" and the options are the same as before

- Squatting
- Deadlift
- Overhead press
- Bench
- Power clean
- Snatch
- Clean & Jerk
- Other (please explain)

As before, I am providing some discussion questions too. I would emphasize that while these are, of course, entirely optional, it makes the poll much more interesting for others if you answer them! The discussion questions are

"Why do you think this is your best lift? What factors do you think contribute to its relative strength?"

"Has this lift always been your best lift? If not, what has changed?"

"Do you think that this is a strong lift for you because of natural factors, like your proportions, or because of specific things you have done, like your particular approach to training? In either case, what are these factors?"

Thanks in advance for participating! ]]> JauntyAngle http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/jauntypoll-2-main-lift-do-you-currently-consider-your-best-2489309/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/my-journey-healthy-thread-2488997/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 01:41:33 GMT Ok. This thread here is my background. http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f15...-help-2448829/

Im starting my weight loss journey over again, I took a year off and im back hitting the bricks. I am currently 345. 5'8" is my height. Im 31 going to be 32 this July.

Ok I am going to use this thread to keep people updated on my progress.

First I want to ask a question.

At work out today, my coach had me do HIIT training for the conditioning portion of our work out. It lasted 26minutes. At one point during the work out, my heart rate hit 180bpm, but for the duration before and after that point was in the 150-160 range. We had 3 breaks, 2 of 1 minute long and one that was 30 seconds.

After the conditioning, we spent 30 mintues doing technical drills. I actually got my heart rate up during the last drill of the day. It was multiple reps of our parry and trap defense. That is a fast drill and it got my heart rate up and I was breathing kinda hard and deep and sweating during it.

Should I be concerned? My doctor is not worried about my blood pressure, as it is only moderately hypertensive, and he says that as I loose weight it will come down drastically. It was a lot higher and worse when I first started my weight loss journey 2 years ago at 420lbs.

Now the work out ended at 755, and I went home and ate a good healthy meal,( 2 skinless boneless chicken breasts and broccoli and greenbeens) and 2 scoops of Muscle milk in water. It is currently 930 and my heart rate is still over 100bpm. Im nervous about it. My coach has me counting my heart beats for 10 seconds and multiply that number by 10.

Why is it so high right now? I know that on rest days and lighter technical days it is usually much lower then 100bpm. At no point did I get light headed or dizzy.

Should I be scared, and call a doctor or is it normal for my heart rate to be up for a while after HIIT?

I know im not in any real shape, being that im 345. So that must have a impact on my heart rate.

In my thread that I linked to, some one asked me this. "Do you wanna be a fucking fighter?" I do. Im fighting for my life, and my future. For my goal to do ammy mma before im 40.

Also, did I eat enough today? Not factoring my calories burned during my training session. I ate 2745 calories today. ]]> Kframe http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/my-journey-healthy-thread-2488997/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/dreaded-back-problems-pilates-2488911/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:20:08 GMT I have minor-moderate shitty lower back, something that is shared by a lot of people. Im lookin' to start doing some muay thai classes soon, maybe some boxing, and was thinking I should build up some core strength so I dont get into back problems during training.

Pilates seems interesting anybody know anything about whether itd be good for this?

does pilates use a bunch of machines? I'm not too into that as I need something I can learn to do myself when I dont have access to that gear. ]]> Catweiser http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/dreaded-back-problems-pilates-2488911/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/lower-back-pain-prolapse-2488833/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:31:00 GMT Where doing deadlifts with 350 pounds and managed that way to get a prolapse.
Continued training/ grappling and that worsened it. Went to an Osteopath and things got gradually better. Was almost okay until i lifted a guitar cabinet. Now i am "back in business" prolapsewise and feel like the last 4 weeks of improvement where not worse too much. Goal is to come back in fighting mode/ being able to grapple again. Any of you had experience with coming back after such an injury? Thanks for sharing in that case. ]]> SimpleMind http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/lower-back-pain-prolapse-2488833/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/help-creating-routine-2488807/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:44:20 GMT I know people that start these threads usually don't give enough information, so I'll try to be as detailed as possible:

Age-29
Years Training-10 lifting weights, 3 training MMA (with a long break due to a motorcycle accident)

Height-5'10"
Weight-192lbs
BF %-Estimating 9% (I know this is low-I'm pretty lean with well-defined abdominals and faint but visible vascularity in shoulders and quads)

Estimated Maxes (with actual recent lifts)-Deadlift 500lbs (435x5, 425x8), Squat-400lbs (335x5), Bench 300lbs (255x5)

Injury History-I broke my right femur and tore my left rotator cuff in a motorcycle accident in July 2010 and I have been dealing with the repercussions ever since. My left knee is currently injured (and has been diagnosed with everything from a "loose PCL" to patellar tendinosis) and I have been doing physical therapy for the past couple months to try to rehabilitate the injury. My left shoulder still isn't 100% and my right shoulder is also bothersome at times.

My goals are to increase both size and strength. I am currently unable to train MMA because of my knee injury, but I'd like to still make size and strength gains if possible. Before my knee injury I was training for my first amateur fight and I was planning on fighting at 170lbs, but I am pretty large for 170lbs (don't want to cut a huge amount of weight for my first fight) and would actually prefer to fight at 185lbs, so I'd like to add a little size and strength to see if I can make that happen.

I would also like to avoid injury if at all possible. I'm the type that constantly tries to lift more and more weight every session, and I have found that this approach leads to me getting injured too often, even though I make every attempt to keep proper form. My current routine is based around the big 3 lifts (along with overhead press and either weighted pullups or rows) and pretty much consists of me trying to lift more than I did the week before. I'd like to refine this approach and I think trying a routine that has a well-defined progression and incorporates periodization would be beneficial.

There are a few exercises that I am unable to do because of various aches and pains (including squatting-because of my knee some weeks I can squat and some I cannot), so I would like to base my routine around these 5 main exercises:

Deadlift
Squat (when possible)
Barbell Bench Press
Dumbell Overhead Press
Weighted Chins/Pullups or Dumbell Rows

I would appreciate any input on which commonly-used routines would be a good fit with my goals, experience and injury history. I would also be open to trying to customize a routine that emphasizes the above lifts but incorporates a more structured form of progression than "try to lift more than last week"

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance ]]> thetopdog555 http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/help-creating-routine-2488807/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/bodyweight-basics-email-thoughts-2488773/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:50:28 GMT A lot of people have it in their heads that training
needs to be complicated to be effective. While there
most certainly are some "unusual" bodyweight movements
that have value, you can go a long way with some really
basic stuff.

Let me tell you about an exercise that is surprisingly
challenging: I call it a "get up" (not to be confused
with "The Turkish Get up" which is a little different).

At any rate, all you need is a floor with enough open
space to lie down.

Now: Start from a standing position, go down to a
lying position with your chest on the floor and then
get back up.

This isn't a fast movement, this is not a burpee or
squat thrust, there should not be any bouncing, no
jerky movements or the like, basically just doing
like you are standing up after taking a nap on the
floor.

Simple right?

Absolutely.

Basic?

No question.

Good, now do that 50 times in a row.

Stand up. Lie down. Stand up. Lie Down. Ad infinitum.

I'm not going to tell you "how" to stand up or "get
down" because I feel that part of the value is to
use your body in a way you aren't used to.

Do the first couple reps in whatever manner is most
comfortable. You'll notice that you do them more or
less the same way every time. You always step with
your right foot, or turn the same direction etc,

Your goal is to now make every successive rep just
a little but different -- kinda makes it a whole
new ballgame.

This movement is basically low impact, it doesn't
require technical know-how, it counts as weight
bearing exercise, no equipment needed, proprioreception?
check. and it is surprisingly taxing cardiovascularly,
even if you are in shape. Young kids can do it and so
can older folks who usually don't get much training time.

Try it out and never before will your floor seem
so interesting.

I sure can't think of a more "functional" exercise.

Train hard,
John Wood ]]> BazUK http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/bodyweight-basics-email-thoughts-2488773/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/kettlebell-noob-need-basics-2488727/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:41:11 GMT im new to kettlebells and need to know the basics which weight should i start with. what are functional workouts for grappling/mma. what are some bad habits i should watch out for. routines you use. how many times a week you use them can they be a full workout or need to be incorporated with other... im new to kettlebells and need to know the basics which weight should i start with. what are functional workouts for grappling/mma. what are some bad habits i should watch out for. routines you use. how many times a week you use them can they be a full workout or need to be incorporated with other things ]]> cs10Plegion http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/kettlebell-noob-need-basics-2488727/ http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/how-well-planned-should-your-sc-when-does-become-too-much-2488711/ Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:29:39 GMT Reading Joel Jameson's book has really made me think differently about training.

I was the classic guy who just threw random darts at a wall for conditioning. Some lifting on these days, running on those days, etc.

I am curious to hear from the community on how organized you are with SC.

I have trained at a lot of small gyms where people just train blindly without a structured program.
But at the same time it is worth noting that to be as organized as Joel Jamison encourages, it does take more mental energy and effort.

It can be very meticulous.

I feel a lot of people would rather just train without thinking too much about it to spare them some stress.

This all being said, I am really interested in hearing what you guys have to say.


Oh and some points that really interest me:
1) I saw Joel's interview of the soviet strength and conditioning coach. The russian said he found it surprising that in the United States there are 2 million different opinions on how to train for strength and conditioning. Every fitness 'expert' in the US is a self made man he said. Literally everyone has their own opinion on how to train the right way for MMA SC, and everyone's opinion contradicts everyone else's. In alot of MMA gyms they just hire some ACE certified personal trainer who just throws darts at a wall in the dark. How the hell did it come to this? In the Soviet Union there was a much more centralized approach where coaches would come from all over the USSR to learn the same methods based on actual scientific research. Just interesting to me....


2) as someone who needs to get in excellent shape fast, I was wondering if it would be worth it to buy a bio force hrv from Joel's site. Or is this just overdoing it? Ahh you see is there a spectrum or not? Is the more meticulous always better? ]]> EliteUltra500 http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/how-well-planned-should-your-sc-when-does-become-too-much-2488711/